Dr. Jared Margulies, an author and expert on the illicit succulent trade, uncovers the global black market affecting endangered plant species. He shares insights from his book, 'The Cactus Hunters,' discussing why poaching occurs and the pressing need for conservation efforts. The conversation navigates the ethical dilemmas collectors face, the complexities of CITES regulations, and highlights the specific challenges tied to the Dudleya species. Margulies emphasizes the importance of collaboration between collectors and conservationists to protect these unique plants.