James Lasdun, a renowned novelist and poet, dives into the provocative connections between lead pollution and serial killers in America’s Pacific Northwest. He discusses Caroline Fraser's book, Murderland, highlighting how childhood exposure to lead can correlate with violent behaviors. The conversation explores the impact of industrial negligence, the decline of crime rates after emissions reductions, and even personal accounts from killers attributing their madness to environmental toxins. Lasdun also draws parallels with other harmful industries, offering a compelling look at societal neglect and its consequences.