Dave Philipps, a military correspondent for The New York Times, and James Klein, a former Air Force drone pilot, dive into the unseen trauma of America’s drone pilots. They discuss the psychological toll of remote warfare, emphasizing personal stories of trauma, morality, and emotional struggles. Klein shares his experiences navigating ethical dilemmas and the aftermath of witnessing unintended civilian casualties. The conversation sheds light on the mental health crisis among these pilots, underscoring the urgent need for open discussions about their challenges.
