Lucy and James Catchpole, both disabled parents and children's authors, share their compelling journeys navigating disability. They discuss how their experiences shape their parenting and creative work, challenging societal norms about disability. From James's joy in physical movement to Lucy's unique perspective on dignified representation, they emphasize finding liberation in limitations. The conversation delves into the importance of honest narratives in children's literature and the need for more authentic depictions of disability, fostering community and understanding.