My guests today are David Hutchings and James C. Ungureanu, co-authors of Of Popes and Unicorns: Science, Christianity and How the Conflict Thesis Fooled the World. David is a physicist, science teacher and writer and James is a historian of science and religion. In this interview we discuss their book and the origin and impact of the Conflict Thesis - the pervasive but erroneous idea that religion and science have always been in conflict down the ages.To buy the book: Of Popes and Unicorns: Science, Christianity and How the Conflict Thesis Fooled the World .And for debunkings of many of the myths the Conflict Thesis is founded on, see History for Atheists: The Great Myths.