Jamais Cascio, the creator of the BANI framework, discusses how this model—Brittle, Anxious, Nonlinear, and Incomprehensible—addresses modern disruptions, evolving from VUCA. He underscores the shortcomings of traditional frameworks and emphasizes the need for resilience, empathy, and inclusivity to navigate today's complexities. The conversation explores the anxiety faced by younger generations due to global crises, as well as strategies that embrace diverse perspectives for effective problem-solving in an unpredictable future.