Jae Rhim Lee, known for her sustainable burial innovations, joins Katrina Spade, who specializes in redefining funeral practices. They explore the interplay of death and ecology, encouraging fresh perspectives on funerary rites. From the humorous complexities of burial to innovative methods like alkaline hydrolysis, the discussion highlights urban burial dilemmas and community rituals that nurture collective grief. Insights into the historical impacts on Indigenous practices reveal the deep connections between burial, culture, and the environment.