Jacob Bogage

This conversation features Jacob Bogage, a White House economic policy correspondent, and Dan Merica, a political analyst focused on campaign dynamics. They dive into the brewing potential government shutdown, exploring how it could impact Trump's power dynamics. The guests discuss Democrats' strategy to tie funding to health care subsidies, the White House's threats of mass firings, and the various political calculations at play. They also highlight how shutdowns could cost more than they save, affecting everyday Americans along the way.