In this enlightening discussion, Jacob Beck, a Research Chair at York University, delves into the intricate psychology of animal minds. He challenges the notion of anthropomorphism, questioning if our perceptions of animal emotions are accurate. The conversation highlights how species like chimpanzees and desert ants exhibit cognitive abilities, such as understanding numbers and navigation. Beck discusses the complexities of comparative psychology, exploring how language influences our interpretation of non-human cognition. His insights provoke deep reflection on our connection with animals.