Poet J. Hope Stein returns to discuss her creative process with husband Mike Birbiglia, sharing embarrassing stories from their romance. They explore poetry's crossover appeal, her new Earth Day poems, and the audiobook release of 'Little Astronaut.'

Mike Birbiglia is joined by Matt Berninger, Carin Besser, and J. Hope Stein for a creative double date. They discuss the challenges of collaborating as married couples, the frustrations of medical misdiagnoses, the consequences of sharing personal information, the dreamlike quality of Ronald Reagan Dreaming, and the importance of kindness and nonprofit projects.