In this engaging discussion, J. Eric Oliver, a political science professor and author, challenges the notion of self-improvement by suggesting we view ourselves as ever-evolving processes. He talks about balancing order and vitality, recognizing our thoughts as transient, and how social connections shape us. Meanwhile, Kieran Setiya, a philosophy professor and author, explores coping with hardship by acknowledging struggles and valuing the journey over mere happiness. He encourages meaningful action against injustice and warns against viewing life as a single narrative.