Iván Cepeda, a leftist Senator known for his role in peace negotiations, and José Felix Lafaurie, a key figure of the Colombian right and president of Fedegan, discuss their surprising collaboration in peace efforts. They explore political dynamics and socio-economic challenges in Colombia, emphasizing the necessity of dialogue across ideological divides. Their friendship challenges conventional political boundaries, showcasing a potential path toward a national social pact, while critiquing the shift from serious discourse to spectacle in modern politics.