Ismail Khoffi, a pioneer in blockchain scalability and modularity, teams up with Mustafa Al-Bassam, an expert in rollups and interoperability. They dive into Celestia's revolutionary approach to blockchain with its modular architecture. The duo discusses how Celestia prioritizes data availability and scalability. They also unveil innovations like lazy bridging and Zero-Knowledge proofs that promise enhanced interoperability. Plus, they explore the balance of decentralization and governance, highlighting the potential of sovereign rollups in the evolving crypto landscape.