Nicholas Fandos, a New York Times reporter specializing in politics and government, joins forces with Isabella Ramírez, editor-in-chief of Columbia’s undergraduate newspaper. They dive into the escalating student protests at Columbia University sparked by the Gaza war. Fandos discusses the intense congressional scrutiny facing university leaders, while Ramírez shares firsthand accounts of the students' experiences and activism. The conversation unveils a divide over free speech and the complexities of campus governance during these turbulent times.