They're paid a fortune — but for what, exactly? What makes a good C.E.O. — and how can you even tell? Is "leadership science" a real thing — or just airport-bookstore mumbo jumbo? We put these questions to Mark Zuckerberg, Richard Branson, Indra Nooyi, Satya Nadella, Jack Welch, Ray Dalio, Carol Bartz, David Rubenstein, and Ellen Pao. (Part 1 of a special series, "The Secret Life of C.E.O.'s.")

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Indra Nooyi, former CEO of PepsiCo, discusses how she introduced design thinking to the company's innovation process. They explore topics such as user-centered design, creating fundamentally different consumer-machine interactions, launching new products, finding hero products, the relationship between design thinking and innovation, and strategies for determining innovation and tight management in PepsiCo.

Indra Nooyi, the trailblazing former CEO of PepsiCo, shares her insights on effective leadership that prioritizes compassion and profitability. She discusses the importance of adapting brand strategies in a shifting beverage market and critiques current MBA education structures while advocating for mentorship. Nooyi emphasizes the need for a focus on employee well-being, health-driven leadership, and collaborative corporate responsibility. Plus, she reveals her surprising encounter with an intimidating world leader and reflects on the dynamics of modern work culture.

Indra Nooyi, former Chairman & CEO of PepsiCo, discusses her new book on work-life balance. They talk about the challenges faced by women in the workplace, including pay disparity, mom guilt, and condescending behavior. They also discuss the importance of juggling priorities and finding support structures for working mothers. Indra shares insights from her upbringing and emphasizes the need to extend benefits to others. They explore the possibilities and challenges of balancing family, work, and life through self-coaching and prioritization.