Ian Acheson, a senior advisor at the Counter-Extremism Project, and Paul Embery, author of "Despised," engage in a thought-provoking discussion. They tackle the controversial shooting of Chris Kaba and the attempt to frame him as a British martyr. The conversation also highlights the unsettling narrative surrounding the death of rioter Peter Lynch, questioning the justice system's handling of mental health. They delve into America's political discontent and the polarized responses to racial incidents, revealing the complexities behind the 'anti-racist' discourse.