Nigel Edwards, former Chief Executive of the Nuffield Trust, and Hugh Alderwick, Director of Policy at the Health Foundation, dive into the pressing need for a transformative 10-year plan for the NHS. They discuss the importance of learning from previous reforms and engaging stakeholders to improve primary and community care services. The conversation explores the balance of collaboration and competition within the NHS, the role of technology in healthcare, and the public's unwavering support despite challenges like long waiting lists and access to mental health services.