Today on the flagship podcast of texting on the outside screen:

03:28 - The Verge’s David Pierce chats with Allison Johnson and Dan Seifert about the software design of Samsung’s new Galaxy Z Flip 5 and Galaxy Z Fold 5.

32:54 - David takes a trip to the Dave & Busters to find out why the games on your phone ended up in your local arcade.

49:48 - Alex Heath joins the show to discuss his experience getting his eye scanned by an orb from Worldcoin, a crypto startup co-founded by OpenAI CEO Sam Altman.

1:14:45 - Our hotline question of the week about wearables without screens.

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