In a lively debate, Horace Cooper, a constitutional scholar and former law professor, argues against birthright citizenship, claiming it's a misapplication of the 14th Amendment. Opposing him, Kris Mayes, Arizona's Attorney General, highlights the amendment's integral value to equality and its historical context. Mark Krikorian presents data on illegal immigration trends supporting his stance for change, while Chris Newman passionately defends birthright citizenship as crucial for protecting children's rights and promoting inclusion. The discussion also touches on the potential chaos of policy reversal and the fundamental concepts of national identity.