Fredrik Logevall, a historian and author, joins to share insights on Ho Chi Minh, a pioneering force for Vietnam's independence from French colonial rule. They dive into Ho's transformation from a French-educated revolutionary into a prominent nationalist leader. The discussion covers America's shifting stance on colonialism, the complexities of Vietnamese nationalism, and the early dynamics of U.S. involvement in Vietnam. Additionally, they explore the notable contrasts between the leadership styles of Ho Chi Minh and South Vietnam’s leader.