Andrew Koller, the founder of Kraken's new Layer 2 called Ink, teams up with Hilmar Orth, founder of Gelato, to discuss the surge of companies launching their own chains. They delve into the technical aspects of Layer 2 solutions, exploring who truly needs them and predicting a wave of new developments. The duo emphasizes the importance of decentralization and user autonomy in finance, and they highlight the strategic collaborations that will shape the future of decentralized exchanges and enhance user experiences.