Herbert Hovenkamp is a leading expert in antitrust law, teaching at Penn Law and Wharton. He shares insights on the progressive antitrust movement and the government's aggressive stance on Big Tech. The conversation highlights the 2023 Merger Guidelines and critiques the reliance on outdated legal doctrines. Hovenkamp also delves into iconic antitrust cases like Microsoft's and the historical AT&T breakup, emphasizing the impact on innovation. His forward-thinking approach advocates for a balanced enforcement strategy in today's tech landscape.