In this engaging discussion, Volodymyr Zelensky, the President of Ukraine, shares insights into his extraordinary journey from comedian to symbolic wartime leader. Joined by Henry Hale, a political science professor, they delve into the 'Zelensky Effect,' examining how his unique identity and experiences galvanized Ukrainian resistance against invasion. They explore the complexities of Ukraine’s political landscape, Zelensky's effective crisis leadership, and his impact on national unity through powerful communication. The conversation also reflects on his potential legacy in global geopolitics.