HD Moore, creator of the Metasploit framework, discusses his journey from playful hacking to becoming a cybersecurity pro. He delves into the ethical implications of hacking tools and shares the fascinating origin story of Metasploit, born from the early 2000s hacker culture. Moore reveals the challenges of penetration testing in the 90s and the complexities around responsible vulnerability disclosure. He also recounts intriguing tales from the hacker community and reflects on the evolution of security practices in response to emerging threats.

HD Moore, founder of RunZero and a network vulnerability scanning expert, joins to discuss the recent chaos in cybersecurity. He highlights the absurdity of a security breach involving the Trump administration mistakenly including a journalist in sensitive discussions. The conversation also delves into the shortcomings of traditional vulnerability management and what he's doing to revitalize network scanning. Additionally, they explore recent cyber incidents, from GitHub supply chain attacks to Kubernetes vulnerabilities, pushing the urgency for robust security solutions.