Sandeep Vaheesan, legal director at the Open Markets Institute and author of "Democracy in Power," discusses the history of electrification and the push for public ownership in energy. Hayden Clarkin, known as "the transit guy," dives into the newly implemented congestion pricing in NYC, highlighting its environmental benefits and community challenges. Together, they explore the urgency of decommodifying resources, the political dynamics of urban transit, and the legacy of public power in addressing climate change.