Harry Heft, a legendary figure in environmental and ecological psychology, delves into the concept of 'affordances' and its profound implications. He traces the roots from William James to J.J. Gibson, advocating for a relational understanding of perception. The conversation highlights how children’s interactions with their environment reveal the dynamic nature of affordances. Heft also discusses the significance of educational experiences in fostering environmental awareness, emphasizing that teaching should be an act of love that shapes informed, responsive citizens.