In this engaging discussion, Dawn Foster, an open source project engagement expert, Elizabeth Barron, who focuses on organizational participation, and Harmony Elendu, a CHAOSS metrics specialist, dive into the nuances of organizational involvement in open source. They explain how CHAOSS Practitioner Guides simplify complex metrics for project health. Key topics include the importance of diverse contributors, the challenges of measuring organizational influence, and the role of community managers in fostering thriving environments. Tools like Augur and Grimoire Lab are also highlighted as essential for effective data analysis.