Hanno Sauer, a philosopher and Associate Professor at Utrecht University, discusses his book on the evolution of morality. He explores how notions of good and evil have shifted through history, influenced by social and cultural changes. Sauer highlights the complex relationship between morality and power, questioning the straightforward binary of right and wrong. Alongside philosopher Sophie Scott-Brown, they delve into historical trends in moral progress, the challenges posed by modernity, and the importance of diverse perspectives in shaping ethical futures.

Julie Norman, a UCL politics lecturer, Tessa Shishkovitz, a UK correspondent for Falter, and philosopher Hanno Sauer delve into the strategies of US election candidates like Donald Trump and Kamala Harris as they target undecided voters. They discuss the complexities of voter dynamics, particularly among Latino and Amish communities. The trio also reflects on the current tensions in the Middle East, touching upon the implications of leadership changes and the humorous side of political events, like a quirky airport hug policy.