In a riveting conversation, Simon Brown, creator of the C4 Model, and Hannes Lowette, a prominent voice in software architecture, delve into the evolving landscape of software design. They discuss the balance between agile methodologies and essential architectural foundations. The duo emphasizes that microservices may not be ideal for every team and advocate for starting with modular monoliths. They also critique the industry's obsession with trendy technologies, urging a focus on robust architectural practices for continued success in software engineering.