Hannah Richter, a Lecturer in politics at the University of Sussex, dives into her compelling book, "The Politics of Orientation: Deleuze Meets Luhmann." She explores how Deleuze and Luhmann's ideas illuminate contemporary political turbulence, including populism and misinformation. Richter connects their theories to today's complex challenges, offering fresh insights into societal control and political strategies, particularly in the age of digital media. The conversation also reflects on indigenous perspectives in relation to the Anthropocene, enriching the discourse on ecological understanding.