Dr. Esmé Louise James, a sex historian and TikTok communicator, leads the argument for civilizational collapse, citing historical and modern issues like AI. In contrast, Hannah Moloney, a permaculture educator, champions transformation, using Cuba's adaptive strategies as evidence. They dive into Indigenous resilience, the impact of technology, and the importance of community response. With a blend of humor and intellect, the debate sparks a lively discussion on whether we face imminent doom or a hopeful path to sustainability.
