Stanford PhD student Haley Lepp joins Emily and Alex to discuss the hype around LLMs in education. They talk about reducing teacher workloads, increasing accessibility, and 'democratizing learning and knowing'. They also explore the devaluation of educator expertise and fatalism about LLMs in the classroom. Other topics include the University of Michigan's AI tools, blend of technical and socio-emotional skills, chat GPT in education, Microsoft's AI-generated article mishap, ethics of AI-generated content, and tech power in San Francisco.