Hafed al-Ghwell, a geopolitical expert from Johns Hopkins University, and Charles Hecker, a political risk analyst, delve into Syria's complex journey towards rebuilding after years of conflict. They discuss the challenges of establishing inclusive governance and draw lessons from Iraq and Libya. The conversation also touches on the Nakagin Capsule Tower's legacy and the Vatican's unexpected controversies, providing a fascinating look at how political shifts influence both architecture and culture amidst a changing global landscape.