Pendarvis Harshaw, host of KQED's Rightnowish podcast, and Gus Lee, author of 'China Boy', dive deep into the hyphy movement's vibrant yet painful legacy in Oakland. Harshaw shares how joy and trauma intertwined during this cultural phenomenon, highlighting music's role in shaping identity. Lee reflects on overcoming childhood bullying and finding strength through boxing, showcasing his journey of resilience. Together, they explore the complex narratives of youth culture, identity, and the struggles that define them.