Discussion on Trump's indictment in federal and state cases, Georgia's pardon system, and the use of RICO statute. Also covers failures in Hawaii's wildfire response, controversy over tsunami sirens, and the impact of Trump skipping the debate.

Guests Blayne Alexander, NBC News Correspondent, and Greg Bluestein, politics reporter with the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, discuss the grand jury indictment issued to former President Trump in Georgia. They cover topics such as hiring a Rico expert and speculations on the trial venue, the impact of TV cameras in trials and state judicial review boards, divisions within the Georgia GOP and Governor Kemp's fundraising, and the MVP race, Georgia Bulldogs, Atlanta Braves, and uncertainty of the future.