Gary Taubes, a science journalist and co-founder of the Nutrition Science Initiative, joins Greeshma Shetty, an endocrinologist, and Sami Inkinen, CEO of Virta Health. They dive into how refined carbs, not dietary fat, fuel insulin resistance and type 2 diabetes. The trio highlights how low-carb diets can not only reverse diabetes but also challenge the conventional reliance on medication. They also debate the misconceptions around red meat and nutrition, advocating for personalized dietary changes as key to managing chronic disease.