In this discussion, Grant Williams, a keen observer of American politics, teams up with Demetri Kofinas to dissect the moral and societal upheavals as we navigate what Neil Howe describes as 'The Fourth Turning.' They explore how political power and technological shifts contribute to a decline in trust and personal accountability. From the implications of financial nihilism to the fragility of complex systems, they unravel the interconnectedness of historical cycles and today’s tumultuous landscape, urging listeners to blend caution with opportunism in these transformative times.