Grace Wales Bonner, an acclaimed fashion designer and curator known for her explorations of clothing and art, joins Horace Ballard, curator of American Art at Harvard, for a thought-provoking dialogue. They discuss the ethical dimensions of design and the profound role of intentionality in artistic creation. The conversation dives into how personal experiences and cultural heritage shape both art and fashion, and they examine the evocative interplay of sound and visual mediums. Additionally, photography's relationship with identity and transformation is revealed as a key theme.