Glenn Kessler, an acclaimed fact-checker, joins the conversation to explore the legitimacy and evolution of fact-checking in journalism. They delve into the complexities of assessing political statements, critiquing rating systems like the Pinocchio ratings. Kessler highlights the challenges of navigating homelessness statistics and the nuances of political truth. With humor, they unpack the perception versus reality of growth in renewable energy jobs, while also addressing the implications of wealth disparity in U.S. society.

The podcast covers strategic cross-party support in Ohio Senate race, Trump's 'bloodbath' remark, Manafort's return to Trump campaign, impeachment inquiry into President Biden, and fact-checking a false claim by Trump.