Katy Perry, a pop music icon known for her chart-topping hits, joins podcaster Gibson Johns to dissect her transformative journey in the music industry. They dive into her groundbreaking debut with 'I Kissed A Girl' and the massive impact of 'Teenage Dream' on pop culture. The pair humorously address her recent struggles and the notion of a 'flop era', while also reflecting on the challenges of staying relevant in today's music scene. Expect engaging anecdotes and candid commentary on fame's complexities.

Gibson Johns joins Vanessa to dissect Summer House dynamics - Lindsey and Carl's tension, cast relationships, character accountability after a party mishap, mom-focused products like Factor Meals and Vegamour, alleged sabotage rumors among castmates, and the intricate relationships on reality TV shows.