AI doesn’t break security, it exposes where it was already fragile. When automation starts making decisions faster than humans can audit, AppSec becomes the only thing standing between scale and catastrophe.

In this episode, Ron sits down with Joshua Bregler, Senior Security Manager at McKinsey’s QuantumBlack, to dissect how AI agents, pipelines, and dynamic permissions are reshaping application security. From prompt chaining attacks and MCP server sprawl to why static IAM is officially obsolete, this conversation gets brutally honest about what works, what doesn’t, and where security teams are fooling themselves.

Impactful Moments
00:00 – Introduction
02:15 – AI agents create identity chaos
04:00 – Static permissions officially dead
07:05 – AI security is still AppSec
09:30 – Prompt chaining becomes invisible attack
12:23 – Solving problems vs solving AI
15:03 – Ethics becomes an AI blind spot
17:47 – Identity is the next security failure
20:07 – Frameworks no longer enough alone
26:38– AI fixing insecure code in real time
32:15 – Secure pipelines before production

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Joshua Bregler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/breglercissp/

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