In this engaging discussion, guests Satya Doyle Byock, a Jungian psychotherapist and author, and George Makari, a psychiatrist and historian, delve into the complex relationship between Freud and Jung. They explore their groundbreaking meeting in 1907, revealing how their theories about the unconscious shaped modern psychology. The conversation highlights the tensions that emerged over differing views on dreams and the collective unconscious, illuminating how their once strong friendship crumbled under philosophical disagreements.