Deep State Kuba, an expert in U.S. foreign policy, and Gene Bajlon, a commentator on political and economic issues, discuss the complex history of USAID. They examine its impact on vulnerable populations and critique the U.S. versus China aid strategies. The conversation delves into the consequences of U.S. economic policies and the political turbulence affecting global health. They reflect on the intersection of humor, race, and their experiences, creating a blend of serious insights and light-hearted anecdotes.