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Gary Chan
CISO at SSM Health, known for his security mentalism and performances.
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Aug 19, 2025
• 36min
I Just Can’t Communicate With the Business. I’ve Tried Condescension AND Derision.
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Gary Chan, CISO at SSM Health and a master of security mentalism, dives into the intricate world of cybersecurity communication. He discusses the challenges CISOs face when transitioning from tech to business dialogue. Gary emphasizes that storytelling is key to articulating cybersecurity's business impact. He also highlights the importance of influence over authority and shares insights on navigating decision-making with incomplete information. Personal anecdotes reveal how effective communication can trump technical skills in leadership.
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