Patrick McGee, a seasoned journalist and author, shares insights on Apple's complex relationships with Chinese manufacturers. Casey Handmer, a physicist and founder, discusses the urgent need for U.S. lunar presence against China’s ambitions. Garth Sheldon-Coulson highlights innovative ocean-based energy solutions, while Gaurab Chakrabarti emphasizes sustainable chemical production. The conversation also touches on Meta's multi-billion investment in AI and the evolving landscape of American manufacturing and tech regulations, revealing a dynamic interplay between innovation and geopolitical challenges.