Gabrielle Appleby, an expert in judicial independence, and Marilyn McMahon, Dean of Law and a specialist in coercive control laws, dive into the fallout from Tasmanian Supreme Court Justice Gregory Geason's conviction for assault and emotional abuse. They discuss the delicate balance between judicial accountability and independence, calling for reforms to boost public trust. The conversation also addresses the rising prevalence of emotional abuse, the legal challenges of coercive control, and the need for dedicated offenses to better protect victims.