Fritz Springmeier, writer of The Illuminati Formula, joins the podcast to discuss mind control and conspiracy theories. They analyze the book's credibility, delve into altars and Illuminati systems, and explore the legacy of Nazis in mind control research. They also touch on handlers, hidden knowledge, and the concept of NPCs. Other topics include moonchild rituals, disturbing horror movies, and genetic memory. They discuss Joseph Mengele, the Bohemian Grove-Franklin scandal connection, and the Illuminati formula for mind control. The podcast also covers human trafficking, programming, underground bases, and the use of directed energy weapons. They explore NLP techniques, controversial topics, and engaging the audience.