In this intriguing discussion, guests Angie Hobbs, Frisbee Sheffield, and Fiona Leigh delve into Plato's 'Gorgias.' Hobbs, a philosophy professor, analyzes themes of power and freedom, while Sheffield, a classics lecturer, brings insight into rhetoric’s ethical implications. Leigh explores Plato's philosophical evolution through personal context and the transformative discourse with Callicles. They dissect concepts like 'might is right,' the moral stakes of rhetorical persuasion, and the dialogue's impact on Athenian democracy, blending classic philosophy with contemporary relevance.