In this discussion, philosopher Fredrik Westerlund, who is exploring the existential challenges of modernity, joins returning guest Nicholas de Warren. They delve into the idea of 'identity on credit,' exploring how our self-worth is often predicated on future recognition rather than present realities. The conversation weaves through classical references from Ajax to Nietzsche, examining themes of honor, madness, and the psychological impacts of social hierarchies. They also tackle the commodification of identity in contemporary capitalism and its implications for personal fulfillment.