Fred Cummins, a cognitive science expert with a rich academic background, dives into the evolution of cognition and consciousness. He explores the philosophical intricacies of these concepts, shedding light on the importance of questions over answers. A fascinating discussion arises around 'joint speech' and its social significance in rituals and protests, highlighting how it differs from animal communication. The conversation also critiques the limitations of technology in replicating these experiences and advocates for genuine human connection in a post-pandemic world.